David Myatt, National Socialism, And The O9A

David Myatt

David Myatt, National Socialism, And The Order Of Nine Angles


Part One
Is David Myatt Still A Neo-Nazi?

While the question “is David Myatt still a neo-nazi” has been asked many times over the past six or seven years – with academics such as Senholt seeming to answer in the affirmative [1] and with Myatt himself consistently denying that he is – many items written by Myatt since 2010, and his reclusive lifestyle since 2010, seem to indicate that he is no longer a neo-nazi.

These items include his 2013 book about extremism titled Understanding and Rejecting Extremism: A Very Strange Peregrination; his autobiography Myngath; essays such as Persecution And War mentioned below in Part Two, as well as the articles he published in 2012 which were directly critical of National Socialism, the Third Reich, and Adolf Hitler [2] and which criticism led to one liberal and pro-Zionist website to describe Myatt as “having a change of heart” [3].

In one of those critical essays, Hitler, National-Socialism, and Politics – A Personal Reappraisal, he writes:

“There is thus, based on applying the moral criteria of The Numinous Way, a complete rejection by me of National-Socialism – of whatever kind – and an understanding of Hitler as a flawed individual who caused great suffering and whose actions and policies where dishonourable and immoral.”

In his essay Pathei-Mathos, Genesis of My Unknowing, quoted in the aforementioned book, he writes:

“For what I painfully, slowly, came to understand, via pathei-mathos, was the importance – the human necessity, the virtue – of love, and how love expresses or can express the numinous in the most sublime, the most human, way. Of how extremism (of whatever political or religious or ideological kind) places some abstraction, some ideation, some notion of duty to some ideation, before a personal love, before a knowing and an appreciation of the numinous. Thus does extremism – usurping such humanizing personal love – replace human love with an extreme, an unbalanced, an intemperate, passion for something abstract: some ideation, some ideal, some dogma, some ‘victory’, some-thing always supra-personal and always destructive of personal happiness, personal dreams, personal hopes; and always manifesting an impersonal harshness: the harshness of hatred, intolerance, certitude-of-knowing, unfairness, violence, prejudice.

Thus, instead of a natural and a human concern with what is local, personal and personally known, extremism breeds a desire to harshly interfere in the lives of others – personally unknown and personally distant – on the basis of such a hubriatic certitude-of-knowing that strife and suffering are inevitable. For there is in all extremists that stark lack of personal humility, that unbalance, that occurs when – as in all extremisms – what is masculous is emphasized and idealized and glorified to the detriment (internal, and external) of what is muliebral.” [4]

It is interesting and perhaps indicative that such forthright statements by him, such essays and books of his written since 2012, have been ignored by those who continue to propagate the claim that Myatt is still a neo-nazi and involved with the Occult movement the Order of Nine Angles (O9A, ONA). [5]

Indicative because of the propagandistic nature of the claim for which no facts which have probative value – no evidence – is ever presented, and interesting because for those propagandists and the many others who have not taken the trouble to read Myatt’s extensive post-2012 writings the question of whether Myatt is still a neo-nazi is inseparably bound up with two questions about the O9A.

Which two questions are: (1) is the O9A a neo-nazi Occult movement?, and (2) is David Myatt really Anton Long, founder of the O9A, author of over 95% of its texts, creator of its ‘Seven Fold Way’ and who, as Grand Master, still operates behind the scenes despite having (apparently) retired?

The propagandists – such as those in the special interest political pressure group named Hope Not Hate (HnH) which is adept at manufacturing and spreading “fake news” (that is, propaganda and disinformation) about those they consider are their enemies [6] – claim that the O9A is neo-nazi, that Myatt is Anton Long and is still active in the O9A. Yet such purveyors of propaganda and disinformation never provide any evidence for their claims with their “fake news” replete with factual errors, revealing of a lack of detailed research or often a lack of any research at all, and often based on logical fallacies such as consensus gentium, the fallacy of incomplete evidence, argumentum ad populum, argumentum ad verecundiam, secundum quid et simpliciter, and of course on argumentum ad hominem.

Hence why for example in the five pages devoted to the O9A and to Myatt in the recent 2019 report issued by HnH, there are at least fourteen factual errors [6], no evidence for their disinformation that Myatt is Anton Long and still a neo-nazi, and a complete lack of understanding of, a lack of research into, the nature of the O9A based as their propagandistic and often sensationalist claims about the O9A are on the fallacy of incomplete evidence, consensus gentium, and secundum quid et simpliciter.

This lack of research into the O9A and the committal of such fallacies are obvious in the fact that “insight roles” and “culling” and Occult ceremonies are not considered in that report in the context of the individualistic and decades-long Seven Fold Way with its aim of attaining Lapis Philosophicus. Which context reveals “insight roles” and “culling” and Occult ceremonies in texts such as the Black Book of Satan occupy only around a year forming as they do some of the tasks of the External Adept, the third stage of the Seven Fold Way. [7]

The lack of research and the committal of such fallacies by propagandists and many others are also obvious in the fact that, as a study of the O9A corpus reveals [8], for the O9A exoteric ideas such as neo-nazism and satanism are considered as merely useful causal forms, as abstractions, with a practical involvement with such causal forms forming just a small part of the possible learning experiences that an External Adept may find useful.

For correctly understood, via a thorough study of the O9A corpus, the O9A is neither satanist nor neo-nazi and as a practical movement in the real world is based more on anarchy than on anything else. [9]

To conclude, my research into the O9A and into the life and the post-2012 writings of David Myatt convinces me that he is not now a neo-nazi, not involved with the O9A, with the O9A itself being an anarchic Occult movement which has no leader and which espouses an individualistic and anarchic praxis.

Morena Kapiris
2016 ev
Revised 2019 ev


The web links below were available as of March 2019 ev

[1] Senholt, Jacob. Secret Identities in The Sinister Tradition, in Per Faxneld and Jesper Petersen (eds), The Devil’s Party: Satanism in Modernity. Oxford University Press, 2012.
           In the Logical Fallacy of Incomplete Evidence – A Case Study section of his 2012 text A Matter of Honour, Myatt effectively demolishes Senholt’s claims about involvement with the O9A and about him being Anton Long. Myatt’s text is available from https://davidmyatt.files.wordpress.com/2018/08/a-matter-of-honour.pdf
[2] https://davidmyatt.files.wordpress.com/2019/03/myatt-problems-ns-v3a.pdf
[3] http://hurryupharry.org/2012/12/11/david-myatt-has-a-change-of-heart/
[4] http://www.davidmyatt.info/genesis-of-my-unknowing.html
[5] The O9A has been described by Professor Connell Monette as “a movement, a subculture or perhaps metaculture that its adherents choose to embody or identify with.” Mysticism in the 21st Century. 2013. Sirius Academic Press.
[6] https://regardingdavidmyatt.wordpress.com/2019/03/04/twelve-basic-errors/
[7] https://omega9alpha.files.wordpress.com/2017/03/o9a-7fw-practical-v3.pdf
[8] The O9A corpus, written between the 1970s and 2019 by “Anton Long” and his Occult students (the Inner ONA) amounts to between 4,000 and 10,000 pages depending on which items – such as the Deofel Quartet, other Occult novels, and more recent texts, are included. For an overview of the corpus see (i) https://omega9alpha.wordpress.com/2019/01/13/recommended-reading-list/ and (ii) https://omega9alpha.wordpress.com/2019/03/09/a-compilation-of-some-recent-o9a-texts/
[9] http://www.o9a.org/o9a-and-anarchy/


Part Two
The Myattian Saga Continues

In the decades long and on-going saga of whether or not David Myatt is or was Anton Long of Order of Nine Angles (ONA, O9A) fame {1} some of Mr Myatt’s latest writings are intriguing and seem to provide more proof that, as he has maintained all along, he is not and was not Anton Long, founder of the O9A, author of most of its vast Occult corpus, and “paramount to the whole creation and existence of the ONA.” {2}

These latest writings of his include the two part In Defence Of The Catholic Church {3} and his Persecution And War {4}. His In Defence Of The Catholic Church as the title indicates is a defence of the Catholic Church, and in particular in respect of allegations of sexual abuse by priests and monks. The article is based on his personal experience of the Catholic religion from boy to Catholic monk. His Persecution And War is a fascinating, if somewhat annoyingly brief, autobiographical account of some of his experiences as a visiting Catholic in Northern Ireland during The Troubles and of how those experiences helped him when he came to develop his philosophy of pathei mathos.

In part one of In Defence Of The Catholic Church he has many positive things to say about the Catholic Church. Mentioning some medieval liturgical music he writes that he is

“so reminded how the Roman Catholic Church inspired such numinosity, such beauty, century following century. For it is as if such music presenced the Divine to thus remind us, we fallible error-prone mortals, of another realm beyond the material and beyond our own mortal desires.”

He goes on to write that he

“from personal experience appreciate[s] that for all its many faults – recent and otherwise – and despite my disagreement regarding some of its teachings it still on balance does, at least in my fallible opinion, presence – as it has for centuries presenced – aspects of the numinous and which presencing has over centuries, again in my fallible opinion, had a beneficial affect on many human beings.”

He then recounts a journey of his in Africa, commenting about the Christian folk he met that he

“admired them and respected their belief and understood what that faith seemed to have given them. Who was – who am – I to try and preach to them, to judge them and that faith? I was – I am – just one fallible human being who believes he may have some personal and fallible answers to certain questions; just one person among billions aware of his past arrogance and his suffering-causing mistakes.”

As for the allegations of sexual abuse made against priests and monks he is adamant, based on his personal experiences as a Catholic and especially as a Catholic monk, that “they, and the few others like them over the years, were the exception” and that those who believe otherwise commit the logical fallacy of a dicto secundum quid ad dictum simpliciter, which basically is to use particular individual cases to form a general rule to then use that rule to describe, and thence to blame, or to castigate, or to defame a whole group. {5}

Such statements by Myatt regarding Catholicism, and such personal feelings as he describes, are not those of a Satanist and not those of someone who associating with the O9A is expected to despise both Christianity in all its forms and Christians themselves. {6}

Part two of his In Defence Of The Catholic Church presents a theological defence of the actions, the response, of the Catholic hierarchy when cases of sexual abuse by priests and monks were made known to them. This is the more interesting part of his article since this theological defence is not only clearly explained by Myatt but also has seldom featured in all the media and other criticism of the response of the Catholic hierarchy.

Myatt’s argument is that in regard to the individuals involved, the Catholic church has a higher spiritual responsibility. Which is to consider and take care of their eternal souls and thus apply the Catholic “sacrament of penance and reconciliation” to them.

Naturally in the modern world of the capitalist West with its secular governments and secular laws this theological view is not popular. Nor a view which many would even consider or understand. Which explains why some States in America, and governments in other lands, have tried to introduce secular laws to break such things as the Catholic “seal of the confessional”. {7}

That Myatt presents and defends a Christian theological argument is not something a Satanist nor someone associating with the O9A would do.

In his Persecution And War Myatt uses his “Catholic remembering” – of Catholic civilians killed by the British army in Northern Ireland – to make a point about prejudice, intolerance, and propaganda, concluding that

“the real tragedy is that events similar to those of my very personal remembering have occurred on a vaster scale millennia after millennia and are still occurring, again on a vaster scale and world-wide, despite us having access to the wisdom of the past.”

These again are not the kind of things a Satanist nor someone associating with the O9A would write.

One final point deserves mentioning. The erudite nature of the articles. There are, as to be expected with Myatt, quotations from the ancient Greek together with his own translations, quotations in Old English and Latin as well as detailed explanations of terms such as “sin” in relation to the New Testament with relevant quotations from the Greek New Testament again with his own translations.


It is conceivable that believers in the Myatt=Long theory, who exist both outside and within the O9A and who seem intent on demonizing Myatt if for different reasons, will in support of that theory claim that someone who was O9A might be devious enough – à la O9A year long Insight Roles – to pretend to write or act as someone who has a diametrically opposite personal character or life to his or her own. Hence someone O9A dialectically praising Christianity.

The fundamental flaw to such a claim in respect of Myatt is that he has been writing similar and consistent things about Christianity, Catholicism, and about prejudice and intolerance since at least 2011, and since then has also penned voluminous other writings about his philosophy of pathei mathos, about compassion, humility, and extremism which echo the sentiments found in the recent writings we have been discussing.

As someone wrote in this regard in 2016,

“All these sentiments, these feelings, are so consistent over so many years, chime so well with his poetry, with the feelings that run through his pre-2009 letters, with his autobiography Myngath, and with post-2011 writings about his philosophy of pathei-mathos, that it seems inconceivable to me that they are artful constructions – fakes – by someone else (or some others) or the product of some ‘sinister trickster’ who has consciously adopted a certain persona in order to try and fool people. Also, what they express is a mysticism, a reverence for and an appreciation of the numinous, so at odds with the ethos and the practice of Satanism – of whatever variety – that it is also inconceivable that they were written by a Satanist or even by a practising Occultist.” {8}

One has for instance only to read essays by Myatt such as his Numinous Expiation {9} and Catholic Still In Spirit? {10} and his book Understanding and Rejecting Extremism {11} to appreciate this.

These latest writings therefore on balance provide more proof that Myatt is not and was not Anton Long. As I wrote in my article Demonizing Mr Myatt,

“The demonizers of Myatt have ignored such things because those things reveal a very different Myatt. One at odds with the ‘sinister’ image of him they have all in their own way strived to manufacture and have propagated in pursuit of their aims. For the image of Myatt that emerges from his poetry and his post 2011 writings is of a reclusive man who regrets his extremist past, who values virtues such as empathy and compassion.” {12}

Rachael Stirling
October 2018

{1} The book published earlier this year titled A Modern Mysterium: The Enigma of Myatt And The O9A is a detailed and neutral study of the controversy, including both articles which support the Myatt=Long idea and articles which provide evidence to the contrary, allowing readers to arrive at their own conclusion. The book is available as a gratis open access (pdf) file from https://regardingdavidmyatt.wordpress.com/myattian-mystery/

See also The Real Anton Long? available at https://regardingdavidmyatt.files.wordpress.com/2018/11/real-anton-long-v1.pdf

{2} Jacob C. Senholt. The Sinister Tradition. A paper presented at the international conference Satanism in the Modern World, Trondheim, 19-20th of November 2009.

{3} The two-part article is available from https://davidmyatt.files.wordpress.com/2019/02/in-defence-rc-1.pdf

Update, 2019: Included in the pdf document is Myatt’s Two Metaphysical Contradictions Of The Modern West in which he comments on the letter written by Pope Francis in January 2019 and sent the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops.

{4} https://davidmyatt.wordpress.com/2018/09/09/persecution-and-war/

{5} In naming the fallacy a dicto secundum quid ad dictum simpliciter Myatt pedantically uses the complete Latin phrase rather than the shortened version secundum quid et simpliciter.

{6} Anti-Christian sentiments abound in fundamental O9A texts such as The Black Book of Satan and in the three volumes of Hostia: Secret Teachings Of The ONA.

{7} See for example The Wall Street Journal, October 2, 2018. New Laws Require Priests to Break the Seal of Confession.

{8} JR Wright. The Strange Life Of David Myatt. The essay is included in A Modern Mysterium: The Enigma of Myatt And The O9A.

{9} https://davidmyatt.wordpress.com/numinous-expiation/

{10} https://davidmyatt.wordpress.com/numinous-expiation/a-catholic-still-in-spirit/

{11} Available from https://davidmyatt.wordpress.com/rejecting-extremism/

{12} The article is included in A Modern Mysterium: The Enigma of Myatt And The O9A.


A pdf version of the above text is available at:


Myatt And Gladio

O9A. One Image, Ten Thousand Words


Myatt, The O9A, And Gladio

In February 2019, a conspiracy-theorist – writing on a German-language internet media outlet – made mention of the Order of Nine Angles and David Myatt in connection with the NATO anti-communist paramilitary Gladio “stay-behind” network.

Apparently, the Gladio network was “the best-kept, and most damaging, political-military secret since World War II” {1}.

Referencing a 2014 article in the Guardian newspaper titled Satanic panic: how British agents stoked supernatural fears in Troubles {2} the conspiracy-theorist alleged that Myatt was behind that particular “satanic panic” with the innuendo being that Myatt was working for British military intelligence and part of that psychological warfare operation (Psy Ops), which ran from 1972 to 1974, with it rumoured that Myatt founded the O9A in the same year as that PsyOp began.


While Myatt’s involvement with Column 88 in the 1970s and 1980s is documented in his autobiography Myngath, by academics {3}{4}{5} and in other articles {6} the conspiracy-theorist goes on to suggest a connection between Myatt and Michael Aquino of the Temple of Set.


This is all good conspiracy theory stuff. Aiding both the O9A and the Myatt mythoi. As do other stories about The Occult Phantom Menace known as the O9A. As did the Quietus article late last year with its description of Myatt as “a former mercenary and bodyguard to fascist British Movement leader Colin Jordan” who has the “lifelong aim of destroying Judeo-Christian culture,” and with the O9A being described as having around 2,000 adherents worldwide.

Can there be such a thing as a bad press, a conspiracy theory too bizarre, an innuendo too far, for an Occult movement espousing “a dangerous and extreme form of Satanism” {7} which has maintained for over forty years that human sacrifice is part of Satanism and which promotes infiltration of and involvement with extremist political and religious groups? No.

Have forty years of criticism of and forty years of anti-O9A propaganda by self-described “satanists” and mundanes adversely affected the O9A? No.

Has the association of the O9A with neo-nazism adversely affected the O9A? No.

For we are just one of many nexions who interpret O9A esoteric philosophy as anti-Magian in essence and National Socialist in exoteric practice and as required by the O9A’s Sinister Dialectic.

TWS Nexion
February 2019 ev

{1} Hugh O’Shaughnessy. “Gladio: Europe’s Secret Networks,” The Observer, 18 November 1990

{2} https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/oct/09/satanic-panic-british-agents-stoked-fears-troubles

{3} N. Goodrick-Clark. Black Sun: Aryan Cults, Esoteric Nazism and the Politics of Identity. New York University Press. 2001, p.223.

{4} George Michael. The Enemy of My Enemy: The Alarming Convergence of Militant Islam and the Extreme Right. University Press of Kansas, 2006, p. 142ff.

{5} Jeffrey Kaplan. Encyclopedia of White Power. A Sourcebook on the Radical Racist Right. AltaMira Press, Walnut Creek, CA 2000, p. 216ff; p.514f.

{6} https://regardingdavidmyatt.wordpress.com/agent-provocateur/

{7} Per Faxneld. “Post-Satanism, Left-Hand Paths, and Beyond: Visiting the Margins”. The Devil’s Party: Satanism in Modernity. Oxford University Press. p.207.



Myatt And Aquino




Myatt And Fringe Fluidity

David Myatt


In an academic article published in January 2019 {1} authors Daveed Gartenstein-Ross and Madeleine Blackman argue that what they term fringe fluidity “is not just a process of inter-cultural borrowing and sharing of animosities that facilitate a congruence of extremist perspectives between neo-Nazi and extremist Islamist elements. Rather, fringe fluidity should be regarded as its own individual-level pathway into Islamist militancy.”

They write:

“One the most famous examples of fringe fluidity is David Myatt, a founder of the British National Socialist Movement. Myatt converted to Islam in 1998.”

They proceed to provide a reasonably balanced account of Myatt’s journey from Neo-Nazi to Muslim, ending their section on Myatt by writing

“Myatt eventually came to reject both Islam and extremism in favor of a new philosophical outlook that he dubbed the Way of Pathei-Mathos. Despite this later conversion, Myatt provides an example of how one’s commitment to anti-Semitism can bridge the ideological divide between Nazism and jihadism.”


{1} Daveed Gartenstein-Ross & Madeleine Blackman (2019). Fluidity of the Fringes: Prior Extremist Involvement as a Radicalization Pathway. Studies in Conflict & Terrorism. Taylor & Francis. https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/1057610X.2018.1531545


The Crusade Against Hate-Speech

David Myatt


Applying Myatt’s Philosophy To The Real World:
Part Two

The Crusade Against Hate-Speech

The term “hate-speech” is, like the term “racist”, a modern abstraction and is an integral part of the new political crusade “against hate”.

The term “hate-speech” originated in America in the late 1930s and was used in a newspaper article in reference to a speech made by Adolf Hitler. It became current in the 1980s as a mass-noun to refer to speech or written material which is deemed to be inciting hatred or intolerance with especial reference to that directed at a specific ethnicity or to a religious belief or to a sexual preference for someone of the same gender.

In terms of its definition and use what is important is the fact that the speech or written material is assumed or believed by someone, or by some others, to incite hatred or intolerance, and that this assumption or belief by some is projected onto or imposed on others.

For, as with the term “racism” {1} implicit in the abstraction “hate-speech” is a moral judgment, a political belief, by some or by special interest (pressure) groups or by politicians that “hate-speech” is “bad” and has to be challenged, fought, and eradicated. That there is or there should be a dialectical conflict between those who are deemed to have incited hatred or intolerance and those who crusade “against hate”, with the State having a moral duty to manufacture laws which punish not only those deemed to have incited hatred or intolerance but also those who are believed to have, or are judged to have, intended such incitement.

The result is conflict, ideological, political, and practical; the projection of the denotata “hate-speech” onto words spoken and written; demands for punishment of those deemed to be the offenders; and dehumanizing propaganda in the media and elsewhere about those alleged offenders.

In brief, there is one more modern zealous crusade based on abstractions such as “defeating hate and countering hate-speech” with the crusaders assuming they are the righteous ones and represent the moral high ground as zealous crusaders – be they political or religious – always do and always have done.

              In terms of Myatt’s philosophy the error of all this is not only the perpetuation of the separation-of-otherness by means of impersonal abstractions with the inevitable dialectic but also because of the continuing manufacture of modern abstractions which remove us ever further from the insight, the wisdom, the understanding of physis {2}, that he states can only be discovered through personal empathy and via pathei-mathos.

As Myatt wrote in his The Way Of Pathei-Mathos – A Précis,

“A personal pathei-mathos [is] one of the primary means whereby we can come to know the true φύσις (physis) of Being, of beings, and of our own being; a knowing beyond ‘abstractions’, beyond the concealment implicit in manufactured opposites, by ipseity (the separation- of-otherness), and by denotatum.” {3}

In his most recent essay he wrote

“empathy and pathei-mathos lead us away from the abstractions we have constructed and manufactured and which abstractions we often tend to impose, or project, upon other human beings, upon ourselves, often in the belief that such abstractions can aid our understanding of others and of ourselves, with a feature of all abstractions being inclusion and exclusion; that is, certain individuals are considered as belonging to or as defined by a particular category while others are not.” {4}

In The Real World

While all this mention of empathy, pathei-mathos, and ipseity might seem obscurely philosophical it amounts in Myatt’s view to one important thing: that both empathy and pathei-mathos are personal and thus that what they reveal to an individual is only relevant to that individual and cannot be “abstracted out” from the moment or moments of revealing.

In practical terms in the real world this means that such insights cannot form the basis for any political or religious dogma, agenda, ideology, or belief. For such political and religious things are by their nature – their physis – supra-personal, and based on the claim, the assumption, or the necessary belief, that individuals should place such dogma, agenda, ideology, or belief before their own insight and judgment.

According to Myatt’s philosophy the philosophical mistake of millennia, continued with the manufacture of new abstractions such as “racism” and “hate-speech”, is and has been some individuals believing that their own always fallible instinct or their understanding and insight can be or should be generalized and applied to others; that their interpretation or view of the world or of events is the correct one with others opposed to their instinct or interpretation or view needing to be challenged and challenged in ways which more often than not involve practical conflict. Thus have military, political and religious leaders and teachers emerged and, latterly, political parties and ideological movements.

Myatt’s philosophy is a move away from all this. A move toward what he describes as wu-wei, a Taoist term which based on his study of Taoism while living in the Far East signifies

“a personal ‘letting-be’ deriving from a feeling, a knowing, that an essential part of wisdom is cultivation of an interior personal balance and which cultivation requires acceptance that one must work with, or employ, things according to their nature, their φύσις, for to do otherwise is incorrect, and inclines us toward, or is, being excessive – that is, toward the error, the unbalance, that is hubris, an error often manifest in personal arrogance, excessive personal pride, and insolence – that is, a disrespect for the numinous.”

In practice, the knowledge, the understanding, the intuition, the insight that is wu-wei is a knowledge, an understanding, that can be acquired from empathy, πάθει μάθος, and by a knowing of and an appreciation of the numinous. This knowledge and understanding is of wholeness, and that life, things/beings, change, flow, exist, in certain natural ways which we human beings cannot change however hard we might try; that such a hardness of human trying, a belief in such hardness, is unwise, un-natural, upsets the natural balance and can cause misfortune/suffering for us and/or for others, now or in the future.

Thus success lies in discovering the inner nature (the physis) of things/beings /ourselves and gently, naturally, slowly, working with this inner nature, not striving against it.” {5}

For me, this expresses the fundamental and personal insight of paganism both modern and old.

Rachel Stirling
February 2019 ev

{1} qv. Part One, available at https://regardingdavidmyatt.wordpress.com/2019/02/12/myatts-philosophy-in-the-real-world/

{2} Myatt’s use of the term physis is explained in essays such as Towards Understanding Physis, published in 2015.

{3} The essay is included in his 2014 compilation One Vagabond In Exile From The Gods: Some Personal and Metaphysical Musings.

{4} Physis And Being: An Introduction To The Philosophy Of Pathei-Mathos. 2019

{5} The Numinous Way Of Pathei-Mathos, ISBN 9781484096642


The State of Hate, 2019


Order of Nine Angles



With the publication of its The State of Hate 2019 report the anti-fascist organization that describes itself as “Hope Not Hate” (HnH) has jumped on the anti-O9A propaganda bandwagon following the recent (November 2018) propaganda article about the O9A published on the popular Quietus music blog {1} by an author who, mindful of rumours about O9A culling, wanted to remain anonymous for their own safety.

The HnH report, according to an article in The Daily Telegraph newspaper,

“found that some of the most extreme groups in Britain today are influenced by the Order of Nine Angles (O9A), unquestionably the world’s most extreme Nazi Satanist group.” {2}

Furthermore, the report mentions and profiles David Myatt in connection with the O9A, and states that the “O9A is arguably becoming more visible and influential than ever.”

The True Nature Of The HnH Report

A fundamental – a damning – flaw of the report vis-a-vis the O9A and Mr Myatt is that (i) many statements about the O9A and about Myatt are made but without providing references to mainstream and academic sources, and (ii) that various O9A and other articles are quoted but without providing references to the date and place of publication and without giving the name of the author on the original text. Another damning flaw is that some articles are attributed to Myatt when they were published under another name.

One example among many is the report stating (on page 83) that “in an interview as recently as 2013, Myatt explained their strategy,” whereas the quoted text was not an interview with Myatt, was not published in 2013 but was posted in 2016 on the “right-wing” Stormfront internet forum by Dark Logos {3}.

That the author of this section of the HnH report – Nick Lowles – assumes and states that Myatt is “Dark Logos” but fails in this case and in other instances to provide any evidence which has probative value for his assumptions is indicative of the true, the unacademic, nature of the report.

Little wonder then that the Oxford based Three Wyrd Sisters O9A Nexion described the profile of the O9A in the HnH report as

“tabloid journalism at its hateful, propagandistic, and judgemental best. A tribute to the hack journalism of the gutter press and reminiscent of the blogorrhea and forumorrhea of mundanes. Full of pejorative (hack writer) terms, factual errors, innuendos, rants, logical fallacies, and blandly stating as fact what are only unproven allegations, rumours and propaganda. Unproven allegations such as Myatt=Long; propaganda lies such as the O9A encouraging rape; and logical fallacies such as a dicto secundum quid ad dictum simpliciter.” {4}{5}

In other words, the HnH report regarding the O9A and Myatt is anti-fascist, anti-NS, propaganda written by individuals with a particular political agenda. {6} That many newspapers and other Western Media hype and quote from the report, and ignore its obvious flaws, was only to be expected given how such newspapers and such Media have their own anti-fascist, anti-NS, pro multi-racial, agenda.

A Fantasy In Print

The credibility of the HnH report in respect of the O9A and Myatt is also called into question when Nick Lowles writes in the section titled A duel at dawn about meeting Myatt in 2001. {7}

Lowles states in the report that Myatt at the time “shared a caravan with Richard Moult” whereas Myatt then lived in the village of Leigh Sinton near Malvern with his wife and family while Mr Moult lived with his female partner on a farm near Lydbury North in Shropshire.

Which facts about their residencies at the time could be confirmed by County Council tax reports, by tax returns from HM Revenue and Customs, by other official documents, and by the Special Branch of the British police who had Myatt under surveillance from at least 1997 to 2003. Indeed, Myatt makes mention in his 2012 essay A Matter Of Honour {8} of regularly meeting with a Special Branch officer in 2000 and 2001, and which Special Branch officer knew where Myatt lived during those years.

Lowles also writes that Myatt gave him “a glimpse of the SS dagger in his pocket”. Which is sheer fantasy since as Special Branch and MI5 could confirm Myatt’s weapon of choice – which he almost always carried with him – was a Bersa .22 semi-automatic pistol.

A Presumption Too Far

In the HnH report Lowles writes that “the presumption must be that [Myatt] is still actively involved in the nazi occult organisation he has spent almost 50 years supporting and leading.”

A presumption – a propagandistic presumption – indeed. For no evidence is presented by Lowles who somehow and for some reason forgets to reference Myatt’s extensive post-2012 writings such as his 2013 book Understanding and Rejecting Extremism in which Myatt describes his rejection of all types of extremism.

Which brings us to the tale of two reformed racists. {9} Of David Myatt and Joe Pearce. Pearce was a minor figure in the “extreme eight” in the late 1970s while Myatt was a member of Column 88, of Combat 18, the founder and first leader of the NSM, and “England’s principal proponent of contemporary neo-Nazi ideology and theoretician of revolution” {10}.

Yet Pearce was fêted by the Catholic Church, by the media, and by Establishment figures, gave public lectures, wrote about his experience, and was given a sinecure in academia. However,

“unlike Pearce, Myatt – despite his more interesting and more violent past, his more diverse experiences over some forty years, his greater notoriety, his extensive writings as a neo-nazi ideologue, his far greater involvement with terrorism – was and is shunned by Establishment figures, is ignored by academics, and when mentioned by journalists or in mainstream books it is often in a derogatory and/or prejudiced manner and is invariably accompanied by the propagandistic and unproven allegation of him being involved with the O9A.

Why the disparity, given that both by their own admission are reformed racists who regret their extremist pasts? Why the disparity in their treatment by the Establishment.”

The surmise is that

“the disparity is due to the fact that Pearce is now part of the Establishment – a publicly repentant sinner who has accepted the Christian God and who continues to write, and continues to publicly speak about, what the Establishment approves of – while Myatt is a recluse whose mystical philosophy (the way of pathei-mathos) is essentially pagan. In addition, there is (i) the fact that Myatt has made – both as a neo-nazi and as a radical Muslim – powerful and influential enemies whose mottos are “Never Again” and “Never Forget, Never Forgive”, and (ii) that Myatt’s neo-nazi writings (despite his disavowal of them) still resonant with some people within the neo-nazi community, and (iii) that so many people within the modern Satanist and Occult movements continue to believe (without any evidence) that Myatt is Anton Long and the founder of and the driving force behind the subversive, anti-Establishment, Order of Nine Angles.

Myatt thus seems to have become, to some individuals involved with some sub-cultures (occult and otherwise) not only some sort of iconoclastic anti-Establishment figure but also disliked and reviled by many more individuals around the world who have apparently developed a prejudice against him. Thus Pearce is given the benefit of the doubt, and believed, while Myatt is not.”

The important lesson is that many people are biased about Myatt, swayed perhaps by anti-fascist propaganda, with individuals like Pearce given the benefit of the doubt while Myatt is not given the benefit of the doubt.

Would a scholarly biography of Myatt – replete with references and evidence which has probative value – change such Media presented bias? Perhaps. Would a scholarly book – replete with references and evidence which has probative value – about the O9A contradict now rampant anti-O9a propaganda? Perhaps.

But we won’t hold our breath. For no doubt the anti-fascist propaganda about Myatt and the O9A will continue for decades, with no scholar daring to contradict such now well-established pro-Magian propaganda.

RDM Crew
February 2019 ev

{1} Refer to https://omega9alpha.wordpress.com/2018/12/03/o9a-transgression-and-subversion/

{2} https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/02/18/children-young-13-joining-satanic-nazi-groups-report-warns/

{3} https://www.stormfront.org/forum/t872799-5/?postcount=44#post13330543

{4} https://wyrdsister.wordpress.com/2019/02/17/a-neo-nazi-death-cult/

{5} The logical fallacy of a dicto secundum quid ad dictum simpliciter is the use of particular individual cases to form a general rule to then use that rule to describe, and thence to blame, or to castigate, or to defame a whole group.

This fallacy often amounts – as in the case of anti-O9A propaganda and in the case of the HnH report – to quoting a few items written by a few people associating with or claiming to be associating with the O9A and then presenting these few items as representative of the O9A, thus neglecting the vast corpus of O9A texts written between 1974 and 2019 and especially neglecting O9A texts which contradict the claims and beliefs mentioned in those few quoted items.

In his 2018 essay In Defence Of The Catholic Church Myatt pedantically uses the complete Latin phrase rather than the shortened popular version secundum quid et simpliciter. This pedantry by Myatt seems to have inspired some connected with the O9A to also use the complete Latin phrase.

{6} The sloppy and propagandistic nature of the items about the O9A and Myatt in the “State Of Hate 2019” report is also evident in the fact that their author does not even bother to get the names or pseudonyms of individuals right. Thus he has
° Christos Beast – instead of Christos Beest
° Darkos Lago – instead of Dark Logos
° A. A. Morian – instead of A.A. Morain
° Michael Mouthwork – instead of Michael Morthwork

{7} Myatt’s version of the meeting is at https://regardingdavidmyatt.wordpress.com/meeting-with-nick-lowles/

{8} https://regardingdavidmyatt.files.wordpress.com/2019/02/a-matter-of-honour.pdf

{9} https://regardingdavidmyatt.wordpress.com/two-reformed-racists/

{10} Michael, George. The New Media and the Rise of Exhortatory Terrorism. Strategic Studies Quarterly (United States Air Force), Volume 7 Issue 1, Spring 2013.



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Myatt’s Philosophy In The Real World



Applying Myatt’s Philosophy To The Real World:
Racism And Racists

One of the principles of David Myatt’s philosophy of pathei-mathos is that denotata – the manufacture, the use, and the naming of categories – hides the physis (the nature) of living beings and thus the ontological relationship between living beings and between an individual being and Being itself. {1} To illustrate his contention Myatt in his 2015 essay Personal Reflexions On Some Metaphysical Questions quotes a fragment attributed to Heraclitus and provides his own iconoclastic translation {2}.

Another principle of Myatt’s philosophy is that the ontological relationships between living beings are revealed by the wordless and the individual knowing that empathy provides. {3}

Myatt contends that, in respect of human beings, such denotata depend on the supposition that named opposites exist and that implicit in such a supposition is a dialectic; i.e. a real or assumed or a potential conflict. Such a conflict between assumed opposites inevitably leads to or perpetuates suffering among human beings because one denotatum is often assumed to be “good” or “true” or “necessary”, with its named opposite assumed to be “bad”, “an error”, or “unnecessary” and “unwarranted”. {1}

            A pertinent modern example in respect of human beings living in the lands of the West is the denotatum “racism” and which recently manufactured abstraction has spawned denotata such as “racist” and “institutional racism” as well as dialectical opposites such as “anti-racist”.

Implicit in this abstraction is the political belief, the dogma, that “racism” is “bad” and has to be challenged, fought, and eradicated. That is, there is or there should be a dialectical conflict between “racists” and “anti-racists”, with the consequence that the manufactured entity – the abstraction – known as the State having a duty to manufacture laws which punish what is deemed to be “racist” behaviour and “racist” attitudes. In effect there is a zealous crusade against “racists” and “racism”.

In this example, the denotata “racist” is projected by one or many human beings or by the Media or by functionaries of the State onto the deeds or words of another human being, or onto the deeds or words of other human beings, or onto the deeds or words attributed to an entity such as a political party or political group.

The result is stereotyping, a pre-judgment of the individual, or individuals, or of the political entity. In the case of human beings, their physis – their individual character, their nature – has been concealed by the denotata with them considered impersonally, by those so describing them as “racist” or accusing them of “racism” who usually do not know, or who have not taken the trouble to know, the accused individual or individuals personally and who thus have or who acquire a prejudice against them and who sometimes develop a dislike or a hatred of them.

Such dehumanization of those considered opponents – political or religious – is not new. As Myatt notes it has been occurring for thousands of years with only the projected abstractions changing over the centuries.

Magian Abstractions

The modern abstraction named “racism” – and the crusade against “racists” and “racism” – derives from the ideological movements that have come to dominate the political life of the nations of the West. In his seminal 1984 text titled Vindex: Destiny of the West {4} Myatt wrote,

“several new studies (often erroneously described as ‘sciences’) have come to dominate Western life, both within institutions of learning and without. The cumulative effect of these studies has been to change the course of the West, since the people most affected by them – those in institutions of higher education – tend to come to dominate the educational life of the West, its media and the cultural sphere in general by virtue of the positions of authority and control obtained through their educational opportunities. As a consequence, social changes have resulted from both government policy and non-governmental pressure. A new Zeitgeist has arisen, and a consensus of opinion created and maintained throughout all the societies of the West.

These new studies – apart from being but complementary to Marxism and the psychological theories of Freud and Adler – are sociology, social anthropology, social studies, and linguistics. Some of these movements or studies have as their aim direct political action […]

All these subjects, movements, and schools, as well as the so-called ‘liberation movements’ that derive from them have profoundly changed the spirit of the West and profoundly altered both its inner and outer
structures. In fact, the ethos of the West has been changed over a period of some one hundred and fifty years […]

That all these movements are a distortion of the ethos of the West is evident if one considers not only what was representative of the West before these movements began, but also what kind of art, philosophy, and politics should have been produced by the natural process that transforms a higher civilization into an Imperium […]

What is significant about this distortion is that the technology of the West, as well as its more material resources, have been harnessed not only to propagate all aspects of the distortion but also to root it so firmly in the soil of the Western psyche that what is truly Western has very little chance of surviving at all, so chocked would its flower be by these weeds.”

Myatt goes on to describe those movements and studies, and the distortion itself, as Magian.

“What all these movements and theories have in common, apart from the fact that they all, directly or indirectly, contradict the ethos of the West, is their common origin. They are all the creations of Jews – the last representatives of the decayed Magian soul. Marxism, with its apocalyptic visions, is a modern manifestation of Judaism, just as the theories of Freud represent the Jewish concern with sexuality (evident in the Talmud). Jews themselves understand this:

“It is this which draws us near to our close relatives, the Marxists… a Jewish passion runs through them too. No people gave more to its political ideas than the Jews, and one of the most glorious chapters in our history is that of the Jewish martyrs for materialism…”

In this context, the historian R. S. Wistrich’s study, Revolutionary Jews from Marx to Trotsky is invaluable.”

Return To Our Ancestral Pagan Source

In the final paragraphs of his most recent effusion {1} Myatt makes mention of “our own Ancestral Culture” just as in his 2017 books titled Classical Paganism And The Christian Ethos and Tu Es Diaboli Ianua he writes about his proposed new pagan metaphysics and about how it may

“reconnect those in the lands of the West, and those in Western émigré lands and former colonies of the West, with their ancestral ethos, for them to thus become, or return to being, a living, dwelling, part – a connexion between the past and the future – of what is still a living, and evolving, culture.” {5}

There thus seems to be an unbroken Faustian thread here, beginning with his Vindex: Destiny of the West and culminating with his most recent effusion, particularly given his criticism of Christianity in that 1980s Vindex text, in the aforementioned 2017 books, and in his most recent effusion. In that 2019 effusion he writes that

“καλὸς κἀγαθός, such personal conduct, and such a new civitas, [summarizes] how the philosophy of pathei-mathos might, in one way, be presenced in a practical manner in the world.” {1}

His continuing emphasis is on Greco-Roman and Western values and virtues such as honour, chivalry, nobility of character, and personal manners.

In other words, Myatt’s apparently “above time” philosophy of pathei-mathos {6} is ineluctably Western, pagan, and practical, and in essence opposed to the Magian abstractions – such as the concept of “racism” – that now dominate the nation States of the modern Western world to the detriment of our ancestral Faustian ethos.

Richard Stirling
February 2019 ev

{1} Physis and Being. 2019. https://regardingdavidmyatt.wordpress.com/2019/02/10/myatt-physis-and-being/


τοῦ δὲ λόγου τοῦδ᾽ ἐόντος ἀεὶ ἀξύνετοι γίνονται ἄνθρωποι καὶ πρόσθεν ἢ ἀκοῦσαι καὶ ἀκούσαντες τὸ πρῶτον· γινομένων γὰρ πάντων κατὰ τὸν λόγον τόνδε ἀπείροισιν ἐοίκασι, πειρώμενοι καὶ ἐπέων καὶ ἔργων τοιούτων, ὁκοίων ἐγὼ διηγεῦμαι κατὰ φύσιν διαιρέων ἕκαστον καὶ φράζων ὅκως ἔχει· τοὺς δὲ ἄλλους ἀνθρώπους λανθάνει ὁκόσα ἐγερθέντες ποιοῦσιν, ὅκωσπερ ὁκόσα εὕδοντες ἐπιλανθάνονται

Although this naming and expression exists, human beings tend to ignore it, both before and after they have become aware of it. Yet even though, regarding such naming and expression, I have revealed details of how Physis has been cleaved asunder, some human beings are inexperienced concerning it, fumbling about with words and deeds, just as other human beings, be they interested or just forgetful, are unaware of what they have done. [Fragment 1]

{3} The Numinous Way of Pathei-Mathos. ISBN 9781484096642

{4} https://regardingdavidmyatt.wordpress.com/2019/01/28/vindex-facsimile-of-original-text/

{5} Classical Paganism And The Christian Ethos.

{6} In regard to the concept of “above time”, refer to Savitri Devi’s book Lightning and the Sun, and the essay David Myatt, Reichsfolk, Esoteric Hitlerism, and Savitri Devi, available at https://regardingdavidmyatt.wordpress.com/2016/11/30/one-man-above-time/


David Myatt and Tommy Robinson: A Contrast



Editorial Note:

We republish here an article from 2013 which raised suspicions about the person using the alias Tommy Robinson. The article was first privately published in Das Reich, the internal bulletin of Reichsfolk, and then publicly posted on the well-known Right-Wing Stormfront internet forum. {1}

The 2013 article contrasts the showmanry, publicly-seeking behaviour of “Tommy Robinson” with the restrained behaviour of David Myatt, with Mr Robinson announcing his apparent “change of heart” in 2013 in public at a Press Conference broadcast live on Sky TV News. In contrast Myatt did not publicly mention his private conversion to Islam in 1998 until two years later when interviewed by the BBC for the Panorama TV programme about David Copeland and which brief remarks by Myatt about his conversion were cut from the programme and never broadcast.

The article also drew attention to the fact that the person behind the alias Tommy Robinson – Stephen Yaxley-Lennon – was associated with and friends with influential Zionists such as Richard Spencer and Pamela Geller. Which influential people perhaps explains why the 2013 Press Conference and Mr Robinson himself attracted so much Media attention at the time.

            In the five years since the article was published it has become public knowledge that “Tommy Robinson” is now and has been for over a year not only mentored and financially aided by wealthy Zionists such as Ezra Levant, Daniel Pipes and David Horowitz, but also is supported by British Establishment figures like Eton-educated millionaire Lord Pearson and influential American figures such as the Republican Congressman Paul Gosar. {2} Gosar, incidently, is a staunch supporter of the pro-Zionist Middle East Forum run by millionaire Daniel Pipes which group paid for the July 2018 trip to England by Gosar where he met with “Tommy Robinson” and spoke at a pro-Robinson public rally organized and paid for by Daniel Pipes and Ezra Levant.

In summary, Stephen Yaxley-Lennon – a convicted criminal who has been jailed for violence and fraud – is a man who is not only, as the 2013 article states, a publicity-seeker “hooked on attention” but is also, as more recent articles have revealed, a useful muppet whose strings are being pulled by his Zionist paymasters while Establishment figures like Lord Pearson massage his ego by wining and dining him in exclusive venues such as the British Houses of Parliament with the muppet now well-dressed and well-coiffured courtesy of his wealthy mentors but still spouting the same old Islamophobic rhetoric he spouted five and more years ago.

In contrast David Myatt – despite also being a convicted criminal who has also been jailed for violence – is a man who not only now lives like a reclusive mystic but who also as a result of pathei-mathos has, in extensive writings, renounced both his extremist past and all forms of extremism. {3}

RDM Crew
November 2018

{1} http://www.stormfront.org/forum/t999405/

The Das Reich bulletin published by Myatt’s Reichsfolk group was mentioned in the Nazi Satanism And The New Aeon chapter of the book Black Sun: Aryan Cults, Esoteric Nazism, and the Politics of Identity, authored by Nicholas Goodrick-Clarke (page 223 of the edition published by NYU Press in 2003). It was also mentioned – in the section headed David Wulstan Myatt – in the earlier book Encyclopedia of White Power: A Sourcebook on the Radical Racist Right, edited by Jeffrey Kaplan and published by Rowman & Littlefield in 2000.

{2} See for example https://reichsfolktimes.wordpress.com/2018/11/05/an-example-of-zionist-power/

{3} For an overview of Myatt’s recent writings see the book The Mystic Philosophy Of David Myatt (pdf)


David Myatt and Tommy Robinson – A Comparison

In early October 2013 the founder and leader of the anti-Muslim EDL, one Tommy Robinson (aka Stephen Lennon aka Stephen Yaxley-Lennon aka Andrew McMaster aka Paul Harris, or whatever his real name is) with much fanfare publicly announced he had left the English Defence League (EDL) because he had “concerns over the dangers of far-right extremism”.

He subsequently gave many interviews to journalists and even held a press conference which was not only broadcast live by Sky TV but also was widely covered by many mainstream newspapers and media including The Guardian and The Sunday Times.

In several of these interviews he announced his intention of continuing to combat what he termed Islamic extremism and even spoke of forming or being part of some new group dedicated, among other things, to preventing the establishment of any new mosques in Britain and propagating the belief that “the Koran promotes violence”. He also declined, when pressed by several journalists, to renounce his association with and support for prominent anti-Islam activists and propagandists such as Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer with whom he had a long-standing association.

Unsurprisingly, many anti-fascist groups and commentators were suspicious of Robinson’s sudden ‘conversion’ with one association – the Measuring Anti-Muslim Attacks – even going so far as to say that unless Robinson met with the victims of anti-Muslim prejudice where the perpetrators were EDL sympathisers they would not believe his ‘conversion’ was genuine.

Contrast the public shenanigans of Robinson with David Myatt, the founder and first leader of the NSM (of which David Copeland was a member) who was, for thirty years, a violent neo-nazi activist and regarded not only as the “ideological heavyweight behind Combat 18” but also as “the mentor who drove David Copeland to kill”.

In the Fall of 1998 Myatt privately, and without any public fuss, converted to Islam at a Mosque in Worcester. Following this conversion he gained a reputation, according to the author Martin Amis, as a “fierce Jihadi”, and – according to Professor Robert Wistrich – travelled and spoke in several Arab countries and wrote one of the most detailed defences in the English language of Islamic suicide attacks, with the Simon Wiesenthal Center commentating in 2003 that,

“David Myatt, the leading hardline Nazi intellectual in Britain since the 1960s […] has converted to Islam, praises bin Laden and al Qaeda, calls the 9/11 attacks ‘acts of heroism’, and urges the killing of Jews. Myatt, under the name Abdul Aziz Ibn Myatt supports suicide missions and urges young Muslims to take up Jihad. Observers warn that Myatt is a dangerous man.”

Over ten years later (in 2010) Myatt, again privately, and without any public fuss, renounced all forms of extremism, admitted his past mistakes, expressed regret regarding his extremist past, and wrote, in an oblique reference to his former political opponents (such as those involved with the Searchlight organization), that –

“I harbour no resentment against individuals, or organizations, or groups, who over the past forty or so years have publicly and/or privately made negative or derogatory comments about me or published items making claims about me. Indeed, I now find myself in the rather curious situation of not only agreeing with some of my former political opponents on many matters, but also (perhaps) of understanding (and empathizing with) their motivation; a situation which led and which leads me to appreciate even more just how lamentable my extremism was and just how arrogant, selfish, wrong, and reprehensible, I as a person was, and how in many ways many of those former opponents were and are (ex concesso) better people than I ever was or am.” Source – http://www.davidmyatt.info/genesis-of-my-unknowing.html

Myatt then withdraw from public life, to reclusively concentrate on developing his rather mystical ‘philosophy of pathei-mathos’ which extols the virtues of compassion, humility, empathy, and love.

This comparison of Myatt with the shenanigans of ‘Tommy Robinson’ leads to the inevitable conclusion that, as one journalist wrote, Robinson’s “defection is not a transformation” and that Robinson “is a man who is hooked on attention” who is simply “changing his method” (his tactics) and not his fundamental beliefs.


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