Concerning The Term Numinous

David Myatt

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Two essays about the ‘numinous’, a term used by David Myatt in his philosophy of pathei-mathos and also by the occult group the Order of Nine Angles in expressions such as ‘the sinister-numinous’ and ‘the sinister-numinous aesthetic’.

The essays place the term into the correct historical, philosophical, and occult perspective.

Part II- A Note Regarding The Term Numinous
Part II – A Note On The Muliebral Numinous

The Muliebral Numinous
(pdf)

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More Lies About The O9A

O9A. One Image, Ten Thousand Words

O9A Insight Role

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Anti-Fascist Watch #2
More Anti-Fascist Lies

With the recent (June 2019) jailing of two young members of a British neo-nazi group for “terrorism” offences, an anti-fascist Zionist financed group based in England with connections to British Members of Parliament, to mainstream newspapers and to television companies has stepped up their smear campaign against the Order of Nine Angles (O9A, ONA) repeating and adding to the baseless accusations and lies that they wrote about the O9A in their February 2019 report about the so-called “state of hate” and which report was widely publicized and widely quoted from in mainstream media.

As in that biased propaganda report {1}, in their latest piece of smear propaganda they again try to link the O9A to paedophilia and to the promotion of misogyny and rape. They also write that “paraphernalia connected to the Order of Nine Angles […] were found at the home” of someone accused of being a member of the now banned neo-nazi group National Action, and that “British neo-Nazis are morphing into Satanic rape gangs.”

In respect of their lie in their February 2019 report that “O9A literature regularly advocates ritualised rape,” we wrote

[quote] A study of the O9A corpus from the 1980s to 2018 – from the pro-Sapphic novel Breaking The Silence Down to the essay The Anti-Patriarchal O9A Ethos – reveals the O9A attitude toward women, with the O9A code of kindred honour embodying respect for women and gender equality and with the O9A having [according to an academic] “more female supporters than either the Church of Satan or the Temple of Set [and] more women with children.”

Nowhere in the corpus of O9A texts written by Anton Long between the 1970s and 2011 does the O9A advocate rape.

In fact the O9A consider rapists as suitable candidates for culling. [/quote] {2}

We even helpfully provided a link to an O9A text distributed in 2015 which suggested that rapists are indeed suitable candidates for culling. {3}

Furthermore, several O9A documents refute the smear, the lie, that the O9A condones and encourages paedophilia, with one O9A text written in 122 yf – 2011 ev – making it clear “that individuals of certain proclivities, involving children, are regarded by us as dishonourable individuals who most certainly are not of our kind.” {4}

As befits their anti-fascist fanaticism, the Zionist financed group continue to use the Big Lie (große Lüge) technique, not only repeating their allegation that Myatt is involved with the O9A while failing to provide and evidence whatsoever but also continuing to attribute quotations by other people to Myatt, again failing to provide any evidence for their allegation. {5}

As befits their simplistic way of thinking, the writers of the Zionist financed anti-fascist group also continue to commit the logical fallacy of secundum quid et simpliciter. Which is the use of particular individual cases to form a general rule to then use that rule to describe, and thence to blame, or to castigate, or to defame a whole group.

Thus they illogically and propagandistically take the example of a few individuals with certain personal proclivities and fantasies, and who may support some aspects of O9A occult philosophy and praxis, as representative of the O9A as a whole.

Meanwhile, as befits their lack of even the most basic research – and/or their desire to place lies and propaganda and hate before truth and hope – these anti-fascist fanatics continue to ignore the fact that the O9A, esoterically understood and appreciated, is at its core neither neo-nazi nor ‘satanist’ but is a sinisterly-numinous occult tradition which

“is concerned with individuals undertaking an often decades-long hermetic anados (ἄνοδος) by which they might discover Lapis Philosophicus and thus acquire wisdom. A practical anados manifest in the O9A Seven Fold Way.” {6}

Haereticus
June 2019 ev
v.1.05

{1} In the space of the five pages given over to the O9A the author of that O9A section committed over twelve basic, factual, errors ranging from outright fabrications to misquotations. The errors are detailed at https://regardingdavidmyatt.wordpress.com/2019/03/04/twelve-basic-errors/

{2} https://regardingdavidmyatt.wordpress.com/2019/03/04/twelve-basic-errors/

The quotation by an academic about the O9A and women is from J.R Lewis, Satanic Attitudes, in Asbjorn Dyrendal, James R. Lewis, Jesper A. Petersen (editors), The Invention of Satanism, Oxford University Press, 2015. p.191; pp. 194–196.

{3} https://regardingdavidmyatt.files.wordpress.com/2019/06/culling-o9a-code-v3.pdf

The text describes a real-life incident.

{4} https://regardingdavidmyatt.files.wordpress.com/2019/06/o9a-and-children-v2.pdf

{5} Their false attribution of quotations to Myatt is exposed in https://regardingdavidmyatt.wordpress.com/2019/03/04/twelve-basic-errors/

{6} https://regardingdavidmyatt.files.wordpress.com/2019/06/nazi-o9a-v2a-1.pdf

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Source: https://wyrdsister.wordpress.com/2019/06/18/anti-fascist-watch-2/

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David Myatt, National Socialism, And The O9A

David Myatt

David Myatt, National Socialism, And The Order Of Nine Angles

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Part One
Is David Myatt Still A Neo-Nazi?

While the question “is David Myatt still a neo-nazi” has been asked many times over the past six or seven years – with academics such as Senholt seeming to answer in the affirmative [1] and with Myatt himself consistently denying that he is – many items written by Myatt since 2010, and his reclusive lifestyle since 2010, seem to indicate that he is no longer a neo-nazi.

These items include his 2013 book about extremism titled Understanding and Rejecting Extremism: A Very Strange Peregrination; his autobiography Myngath; essays such as Persecution And War mentioned below in Part Two, as well as the articles he published in 2012 which were directly critical of National Socialism, the Third Reich, and Adolf Hitler [2] and which criticism led to one liberal and pro-Zionist website to describe Myatt as “having a change of heart” [3].

In one of those critical essays, Hitler, National-Socialism, and Politics – A Personal Reappraisal, he writes:

“There is thus, based on applying the moral criteria of The Numinous Way, a complete rejection by me of National-Socialism – of whatever kind – and an understanding of Hitler as a flawed individual who caused great suffering and whose actions and policies where dishonourable and immoral.”

In his essay Pathei-Mathos, Genesis of My Unknowing, quoted in the aforementioned book, he writes:

“For what I painfully, slowly, came to understand, via pathei-mathos, was the importance – the human necessity, the virtue – of love, and how love expresses or can express the numinous in the most sublime, the most human, way. Of how extremism (of whatever political or religious or ideological kind) places some abstraction, some ideation, some notion of duty to some ideation, before a personal love, before a knowing and an appreciation of the numinous. Thus does extremism – usurping such humanizing personal love – replace human love with an extreme, an unbalanced, an intemperate, passion for something abstract: some ideation, some ideal, some dogma, some ‘victory’, some-thing always supra-personal and always destructive of personal happiness, personal dreams, personal hopes; and always manifesting an impersonal harshness: the harshness of hatred, intolerance, certitude-of-knowing, unfairness, violence, prejudice.

Thus, instead of a natural and a human concern with what is local, personal and personally known, extremism breeds a desire to harshly interfere in the lives of others – personally unknown and personally distant – on the basis of such a hubriatic certitude-of-knowing that strife and suffering are inevitable. For there is in all extremists that stark lack of personal humility, that unbalance, that occurs when – as in all extremisms – what is masculous is emphasized and idealized and glorified to the detriment (internal, and external) of what is muliebral.” [4]

It is interesting and perhaps indicative that such forthright statements by him, such essays and books of his written since 2012, have been ignored by those who continue to propagate the claim that Myatt is still a neo-nazi and involved with the Occult movement the Order of Nine Angles (O9A, ONA). [5]

Indicative because of the propagandistic nature of the claim for which no facts which have probative value – no evidence – is ever presented, and interesting because for those propagandists and the many others who have not taken the trouble to read Myatt’s extensive post-2012 writings the question of whether Myatt is still a neo-nazi is inseparably bound up with two questions about the O9A.

Which two questions are: (1) is the O9A a neo-nazi Occult movement?, and (2) is David Myatt really Anton Long, founder of the O9A, author of over 95% of its texts, creator of its ‘Seven Fold Way’ and who, as Grand Master, still operates behind the scenes despite having (apparently) retired?

The propagandists – such as those in the special interest political pressure group named Hope Not Hate (HnH) which is adept at manufacturing and spreading “fake news” (that is, propaganda and disinformation) about those they consider are their enemies [6] – claim that the O9A is neo-nazi, that Myatt is Anton Long and is still active in the O9A. Yet such purveyors of propaganda and disinformation never provide any evidence for their claims with their “fake news” replete with factual errors, revealing of a lack of detailed research or often a lack of any research at all, and often based on logical fallacies such as consensus gentium, the fallacy of incomplete evidence, argumentum ad populum, argumentum ad verecundiam, secundum quid et simpliciter, and of course on argumentum ad hominem.

Hence why for example in the five pages devoted to the O9A and to Myatt in the recent 2019 report issued by HnH, there are at least fourteen factual errors [6], no evidence for their disinformation that Myatt is Anton Long and still a neo-nazi, and a complete lack of understanding of, a lack of research into, the nature of the O9A based as their propagandistic and often sensationalist claims about the O9A are on the fallacy of incomplete evidence, consensus gentium, and secundum quid et simpliciter.

This lack of research into the O9A and the committal of such fallacies are obvious in the fact that “insight roles” and “culling” and Occult ceremonies are not considered in that report in the context of the individualistic and decades-long Seven Fold Way with its aim of attaining Lapis Philosophicus. Which context reveals “insight roles” and “culling” and Occult ceremonies in texts such as the Black Book of Satan occupy only around a year forming as they do some of the tasks of the External Adept, the third stage of the Seven Fold Way. [7]

The lack of research and the committal of such fallacies by propagandists and many others are also obvious in the fact that, as a study of the O9A corpus reveals [8], for the O9A exoteric ideas such as neo-nazism and satanism are considered as merely useful causal forms, as abstractions, with a practical involvement with such causal forms forming just a small part of the possible learning experiences that an External Adept may find useful.

For correctly understood, via a thorough study of the O9A corpus, the O9A is neither satanist nor neo-nazi and as a practical movement in the real world is based more on anarchy than on anything else. [9]

To conclude, my research into the O9A and into the life and the post-2012 writings of David Myatt convinces me that he is not now a neo-nazi, not involved with the O9A, with the O9A itself being an anarchic Occult movement which has no leader and which espouses an individualistic and anarchic praxis.

Morena Kapiris
2016 ev
Revised 2019 ev

Notes

The web links below were available as of March 2019 ev

[1] Senholt, Jacob. Secret Identities in The Sinister Tradition, in Per Faxneld and Jesper Petersen (eds), The Devil’s Party: Satanism in Modernity. Oxford University Press, 2012.
           In the Logical Fallacy of Incomplete Evidence – A Case Study section of his 2012 text A Matter of Honour, Myatt effectively demolishes Senholt’s claims about involvement with the O9A and about him being Anton Long. Myatt’s text is available from https://davidmyatt.files.wordpress.com/2018/08/a-matter-of-honour.pdf
[2] https://davidmyatt.files.wordpress.com/2019/03/myatt-problems-ns-v3a.pdf
[3] http://hurryupharry.org/2012/12/11/david-myatt-has-a-change-of-heart/
[4] http://www.davidmyatt.info/genesis-of-my-unknowing.html
[5] The O9A has been described by Professor Connell Monette as “a movement, a subculture or perhaps metaculture that its adherents choose to embody or identify with.” Mysticism in the 21st Century. 2013. Sirius Academic Press.
[6] https://regardingdavidmyatt.wordpress.com/2019/03/04/twelve-basic-errors/
[7] https://omega9alpha.files.wordpress.com/2017/03/o9a-7fw-practical-v3.pdf
[8] The O9A corpus, written between the 1970s and 2019 by “Anton Long” and his Occult students (the Inner ONA) amounts to between 4,000 and 10,000 pages depending on which items – such as the Deofel Quartet, other Occult novels, and more recent texts, are included. For an overview of the corpus see (i) https://omega9alpha.wordpress.com/2019/01/13/recommended-reading-list/ and (ii) https://omega9alpha.wordpress.com/2019/03/09/a-compilation-of-some-recent-o9a-texts/
[9] http://www.o9a.org/o9a-and-anarchy/

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Part Two
The Myattian Saga Continues

In the decades long and on-going saga of whether or not David Myatt is or was Anton Long of Order of Nine Angles (ONA, O9A) fame {1} some of Mr Myatt’s latest writings are intriguing and seem to provide more proof that, as he has maintained all along, he is not and was not Anton Long, founder of the O9A, author of most of its vast Occult corpus, and “paramount to the whole creation and existence of the ONA.” {2}

These latest writings of his include the two part In Defence Of The Catholic Church {3} and his Persecution And War {4}. His In Defence Of The Catholic Church as the title indicates is a defence of the Catholic Church, and in particular in respect of allegations of sexual abuse by priests and monks. The article is based on his personal experience of the Catholic religion from boy to Catholic monk. His Persecution And War is a fascinating, if somewhat annoyingly brief, autobiographical account of some of his experiences as a visiting Catholic in Northern Ireland during The Troubles and of how those experiences helped him when he came to develop his philosophy of pathei mathos.

In part one of In Defence Of The Catholic Church he has many positive things to say about the Catholic Church. Mentioning some medieval liturgical music he writes that he is

“so reminded how the Roman Catholic Church inspired such numinosity, such beauty, century following century. For it is as if such music presenced the Divine to thus remind us, we fallible error-prone mortals, of another realm beyond the material and beyond our own mortal desires.”

He goes on to write that he

“from personal experience appreciate[s] that for all its many faults – recent and otherwise – and despite my disagreement regarding some of its teachings it still on balance does, at least in my fallible opinion, presence – as it has for centuries presenced – aspects of the numinous and which presencing has over centuries, again in my fallible opinion, had a beneficial affect on many human beings.”

He then recounts a journey of his in Africa, commenting about the Christian folk he met that he

“admired them and respected their belief and understood what that faith seemed to have given them. Who was – who am – I to try and preach to them, to judge them and that faith? I was – I am – just one fallible human being who believes he may have some personal and fallible answers to certain questions; just one person among billions aware of his past arrogance and his suffering-causing mistakes.”

As for the allegations of sexual abuse made against priests and monks he is adamant, based on his personal experiences as a Catholic and especially as a Catholic monk, that “they, and the few others like them over the years, were the exception” and that those who believe otherwise commit the logical fallacy of a dicto secundum quid ad dictum simpliciter, which basically is to use particular individual cases to form a general rule to then use that rule to describe, and thence to blame, or to castigate, or to defame a whole group. {5}

Such statements by Myatt regarding Catholicism, and such personal feelings as he describes, are not those of a Satanist and not those of someone who associating with the O9A is expected to despise both Christianity in all its forms and Christians themselves. {6}

Part two of his In Defence Of The Catholic Church presents a theological defence of the actions, the response, of the Catholic hierarchy when cases of sexual abuse by priests and monks were made known to them. This is the more interesting part of his article since this theological defence is not only clearly explained by Myatt but also has seldom featured in all the media and other criticism of the response of the Catholic hierarchy.

Myatt’s argument is that in regard to the individuals involved, the Catholic church has a higher spiritual responsibility. Which is to consider and take care of their eternal souls and thus apply the Catholic “sacrament of penance and reconciliation” to them.

Naturally in the modern world of the capitalist West with its secular governments and secular laws this theological view is not popular. Nor a view which many would even consider or understand. Which explains why some States in America, and governments in other lands, have tried to introduce secular laws to break such things as the Catholic “seal of the confessional”. {7}

That Myatt presents and defends a Christian theological argument is not something a Satanist nor someone associating with the O9A would do.

In his Persecution And War Myatt uses his “Catholic remembering” – of Catholic civilians killed by the British army in Northern Ireland – to make a point about prejudice, intolerance, and propaganda, concluding that

“the real tragedy is that events similar to those of my very personal remembering have occurred on a vaster scale millennia after millennia and are still occurring, again on a vaster scale and world-wide, despite us having access to the wisdom of the past.”

These again are not the kind of things a Satanist nor someone associating with the O9A would write.

One final point deserves mentioning. The erudite nature of the articles. There are, as to be expected with Myatt, quotations from the ancient Greek together with his own translations, quotations in Old English and Latin as well as detailed explanations of terms such as “sin” in relation to the New Testament with relevant quotations from the Greek New Testament again with his own translations.

Conclusion

It is conceivable that believers in the Myatt=Long theory, who exist both outside and within the O9A and who seem intent on demonizing Myatt if for different reasons, will in support of that theory claim that someone who was O9A might be devious enough – à la O9A year long Insight Roles – to pretend to write or act as someone who has a diametrically opposite personal character or life to his or her own. Hence someone O9A dialectically praising Christianity.

The fundamental flaw to such a claim in respect of Myatt is that he has been writing similar and consistent things about Christianity, Catholicism, and about prejudice and intolerance since at least 2011, and since then has also penned voluminous other writings about his philosophy of pathei mathos, about compassion, humility, and extremism which echo the sentiments found in the recent writings we have been discussing.

As someone wrote in this regard in 2016,

“All these sentiments, these feelings, are so consistent over so many years, chime so well with his poetry, with the feelings that run through his pre-2009 letters, with his autobiography Myngath, and with post-2011 writings about his philosophy of pathei-mathos, that it seems inconceivable to me that they are artful constructions – fakes – by someone else (or some others) or the product of some ‘sinister trickster’ who has consciously adopted a certain persona in order to try and fool people. Also, what they express is a mysticism, a reverence for and an appreciation of the numinous, so at odds with the ethos and the practice of Satanism – of whatever variety – that it is also inconceivable that they were written by a Satanist or even by a practising Occultist.” {8}

One has for instance only to read essays by Myatt such as his Numinous Expiation {9} and Catholic Still In Spirit? {10} and his book Understanding and Rejecting Extremism {11} to appreciate this.

These latest writings therefore on balance provide more proof that Myatt is not and was not Anton Long. As I wrote in my article Demonizing Mr Myatt,

“The demonizers of Myatt have ignored such things because those things reveal a very different Myatt. One at odds with the ‘sinister’ image of him they have all in their own way strived to manufacture and have propagated in pursuit of their aims. For the image of Myatt that emerges from his poetry and his post 2011 writings is of a reclusive man who regrets his extremist past, who values virtues such as empathy and compassion.” {12}

Rachael Stirling
October 2018
v.1.03

{1} The book published earlier this year titled A Modern Mysterium: The Enigma of Myatt And The O9A is a detailed and neutral study of the controversy, including both articles which support the Myatt=Long idea and articles which provide evidence to the contrary, allowing readers to arrive at their own conclusion. The book is available as a gratis open access (pdf) file from https://regardingdavidmyatt.wordpress.com/myattian-mystery/

See also The Real Anton Long? available at https://regardingdavidmyatt.files.wordpress.com/2018/11/real-anton-long-v1.pdf

{2} Jacob C. Senholt. The Sinister Tradition. A paper presented at the international conference Satanism in the Modern World, Trondheim, 19-20th of November 2009.

{3} The two-part article is available from https://davidmyatt.files.wordpress.com/2019/02/in-defence-rc-1.pdf

Update, 2019: Included in the pdf document is Myatt’s Two Metaphysical Contradictions Of The Modern West in which he comments on the letter written by Pope Francis in January 2019 and sent the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops.

{4} https://davidmyatt.wordpress.com/2018/09/09/persecution-and-war/

{5} In naming the fallacy a dicto secundum quid ad dictum simpliciter Myatt pedantically uses the complete Latin phrase rather than the shortened version secundum quid et simpliciter.

{6} Anti-Christian sentiments abound in fundamental O9A texts such as The Black Book of Satan and in the three volumes of Hostia: Secret Teachings Of The ONA.

{7} See for example The Wall Street Journal, October 2, 2018. New Laws Require Priests to Break the Seal of Confession.

{8} JR Wright. The Strange Life Of David Myatt. The essay is included in A Modern Mysterium: The Enigma of Myatt And The O9A.

{9} https://davidmyatt.wordpress.com/numinous-expiation/

{10} https://davidmyatt.wordpress.com/numinous-expiation/a-catholic-still-in-spirit/

{11} Available from https://davidmyatt.wordpress.com/rejecting-extremism/

{12} The article is included in A Modern Mysterium: The Enigma of Myatt And The O9A.

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A pdf version of the above text is available at:
https://regardingdavidmyatt.files.wordpress.com/2019/03/myatt-still-a-neo-nazi-v2b.pdf

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A Rotten System

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We are not surprised that mainstream newspapers publish the propaganda lies of a hateful propagandist financed by a Zionist billionaire {1} without bothering to check the facts or give the person who is being lied about the opportunity to give their side of the story.

For that is how the vast majority of newspapers now operate: as purveyors of gossip and propaganda with little or no regard for the truth knowing full well that ordinary citizens in a land such as Britain will not sue for libel because they cannot afford to since only the wealthy can afford to pursue a claim of defamation through courts of law.

In other words the journalists and publishers of such newspapers are part of the rotten and rotting system that exists in nearly all the lands of the modern materialistic West, led as those lands are by egoistic politicians or, as Myatt wrote in 2010 in a perceptive essay {2} by politicians with their own personal (sometimes emotive) political agenda and/or by the agendas of whatever special interest groups have helped them get elected.

“Such special interest groups invariably include those with particular business and political concerns who have the financial resources to employ professional lobbyists, Media consultants, and propagandists.

The result is that the political party and/or particular advocacy groups who have the most money during elections campaigns, and who have the support of a substantial part of the Media, and/or who have a candidate for high office who is a persuasive public speaker, influence the result of elections, having persuaded or influenced the percentage of people necessary to win an election.

In other words, modern elections have become an often cynical process of targeting, persuading, and influencing, people […]

[Another] problem with modern democracy is that modern politicians – with only a few exceptions – have mastered and use the art of propaganda, evident in their inability to be open and honest about their own failings and culpability while in public office, and in their inability to be honest about the failure of the policies of their government. Instead, they are adroit at manufacturing excuses, or shifting the blame away from themselves and government policies, or are disingenuous when answering questions or when addressing concerns about their culpability or that of their government […]

The always well-off political clique will continue to laud it over the poor and those whose ‘front-line’ public service keeps society functioning. The self-perpetuating political clique will continue to makes excuses for their own failures, for declining public services, for government failure to solve social problems, and for increasing poverty, homelessness, and crime.” {2}

Myatt’s solution is somewhat reminiscent of the idealism inherent in both fascism and National Socialism, albeit that this idealism has been been almost air-brushed out of history by concerted anti-fascist and anti-NS propaganda campaigns during and after the Second World War. Propaganda campaigns such as the ones about “the holocaust” which continue to this day; and propaganda campaigns such as the one being waged today by a “grubby little propagandist” at the behest of a Zionist billionaire which involves rants about fascist and nazi “hate” speech, the hateful dehumanizing of opponents, the praising of multi-racialism, and telling lies about people, all under the pretence of “defeating hate”.

Myatt wrote that the solution is

“to reform modern democracy so that leaders and politicians must have such personal character-revealing experience as qualifies them to lead and to govern, with that personal experience consisting of proven and years-long ‘front line’ service to their country and to their people such as in the armed forces or serving as a ‘first responder’ in such occupations as paramedic, a police officer, and in the Fire & Rescue service.”

This solution could easily be applied to broadcasters, to journalists, to the publishers of newspapers and to the owners of media organizations.

Until the day of such reforms arrives the purveyors of gossip and propaganda via means such as newspapers and ‘special interest’ groups will continue with their grubby trade.

Richard Stirling
Reichsfolk
February 24, 2019

{1} https://regardingdavidmyatt.wordpress.com/2019/02/23/a-grubby-little-propagandist/
{2} https://davidmyatt.wordpress.com/2010/05/29/the-moment-of-my-reading/

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Full Of Hate Not Hope

David Myatt

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While the anti-fascist and much Media-hyped organization calling itself “Hope Not Hate” goes on and on about “right-wing” hate its own agenda seems to be founded on hate, on an “us” against “them” dialectical and hateful attitude and narrative.

Thus “Hope Not Hate” does not reach out in a compassionate, hopeful, way to what it propagandistically refers to as “right-wing” extremists but persists in trying to demean and dehumanize them in the manner of hack journalists.

Hence their propagandistic use of expressions in recent articles such as “far-right motor-mouth”, “even by their very low standards”, “cerebrally challenged”, “a longstanding joke even in his own bedroom”, and that a certain person “reached for his finest Crayola”.

Are such expressions representative of hope – and of compassion, redemption – or of a hate engendered via a particular political ideology?

I recall an article in which Sonia Gable – wife of Gerry Gable, founder of the anti-fascist magazine Searchlight – wrote some years ago in which she criticized certain anti-fascists (possibly even Hope Not Hate) for not respecting the truth since such organizations and individuals seemed fixated on propaganda, on disinformation, and on demeaning individuals.

A pertinent example of the demeaning, the disinformation, of the “Hope Not Hate” attitude toward their opponents is the meeting of Nick Lowles with David Myatt in 2001. {1}

Lowles – as ideological and religious extremists often are – was convinced Myatt was the “hateful” enemy. Thus did Lowles seek to demonize Myatt in that meeting by his subsequent descriptions of that meeting. Lowles apparently had no empathy, and did not reach out to Myatt in a compassionate, understanding, rational, human, way as officers from Special Branch had and did following their arrest of Myatt in 1998.

As Myatt noted in his 2012 essay A Matter Of Honour,

“could my career as an extremist have been brought to an earlier end had one or some of my opponents taken the trouble to get to know me personally and rationally revealed to me the error of my suffering-causing, unethical, extremist ways? Perhaps; perhaps not – I admit I do not know. I do know, however, how my personal interaction with, and the ethical behaviour of, the Police I interacted with from the time of my arrest by officers from SO12 in 1998, permanently changed (for the better) my attitude toward the Police.”

Could Lowles in that meeting with Myatt have reached out to him in a hopeful, a redemptive, a non-hateful, way and thus changed Myatt’s life for the better? Perhaps.

Does Lowles, and do other anti-fascists, ever contemplate how a hopeful – a redemptive, a personal interactive way, a more human, more compassionate – solution, is ethically superior to their current dialectical and impersonal hateful attitude?

We somehow doubt that they have ever contemplated such a hopeful compassionate solution. So for now the designation of an organization which calls itself “Hope Not Hate” seems inappropriate.

Do we laugh at their Old World shenanigans? At their commitment to Old World abstractions? No we do not. Instead we pity them as icons, and soon to be relicts, of the Old Magian Order.

As David Myatt – their hateful icon – was fond of quoting:

Δίκα δὲ τοῖς μὲν παθοῦσιν μαθεῖν ἐπιρρέπει

[The Goddess] Fairness favours someone learning from adversity

R.S.
RDM Crew
February 2019

{1} The fantasy penned by Lowles about his meeting with Myatt is given in his “The State of Hate 2019” report.

Myatt’s view is given in https://regardingdavidmyatt.wordpress.com/meeting-with-nick-lowles/

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The State of Hate, 2019

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Order of Nine Angles

O9A

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With the publication of its The State of Hate 2019 report the anti-fascist organization that describes itself as “Hope Not Hate” (HnH) has jumped on the anti-O9A propaganda bandwagon following the recent (November 2018) propaganda article about the O9A published on the popular Quietus music blog {1} by an author who, mindful of rumours about O9A culling, wanted to remain anonymous for their own safety.

The HnH report, according to an article in The Daily Telegraph newspaper,

“found that some of the most extreme groups in Britain today are influenced by the Order of Nine Angles (O9A), unquestionably the world’s most extreme Nazi Satanist group.” {2}

Furthermore, the report mentions and profiles David Myatt in connection with the O9A, and states that the “O9A is arguably becoming more visible and influential than ever.”

The True Nature Of The HnH Report

A fundamental – a damning – flaw of the report vis-a-vis the O9A and Mr Myatt is that (i) many statements about the O9A and about Myatt are made but without providing references to mainstream and academic sources, and (ii) that various O9A and other articles are quoted but without providing references to the date and place of publication and without giving the name of the author on the original text. Another damning flaw is that some articles are attributed to Myatt when they were published under another name.

One example among many is the report stating (on page 83) that “in an interview as recently as 2013, Myatt explained their strategy,” whereas the quoted text was not an interview with Myatt, was not published in 2013 but was posted in 2016 on the “right-wing” Stormfront internet forum by Dark Logos {3}.

That the author of this section of the HnH report – Nick Lowles – assumes and states that Myatt is “Dark Logos” but fails in this case and in other instances to provide any evidence which has probative value for his assumptions is indicative of the true, the unacademic, nature of the report.

Little wonder then that the Oxford based Three Wyrd Sisters O9A Nexion described the profile of the O9A in the HnH report as

“tabloid journalism at its hateful, propagandistic, and judgemental best. A tribute to the hack journalism of the gutter press and reminiscent of the blogorrhea and forumorrhea of mundanes. Full of pejorative (hack writer) terms, factual errors, innuendos, rants, logical fallacies, and blandly stating as fact what are only unproven allegations, rumours and propaganda. Unproven allegations such as Myatt=Long; propaganda lies such as the O9A encouraging rape; and logical fallacies such as a dicto secundum quid ad dictum simpliciter.” {4}{5}

In other words, the HnH report regarding the O9A and Myatt is anti-fascist, anti-NS, propaganda written by individuals with a particular political agenda. {6} That many newspapers and other Western Media hype and quote from the report, and ignore its obvious flaws, was only to be expected given how such newspapers and such Media have their own anti-fascist, anti-NS, pro multi-racial, agenda.

A Fantasy In Print

The credibility of the HnH report in respect of the O9A and Myatt is also called into question when Nick Lowles writes in the section titled A duel at dawn about meeting Myatt in 2001. {7}

Lowles states in the report that Myatt at the time “shared a caravan with Richard Moult” whereas Myatt then lived in the village of Leigh Sinton near Malvern with his wife and family while Mr Moult lived with his female partner on a farm near Lydbury North in Shropshire.

Which facts about their residencies at the time could be confirmed by County Council tax reports, by tax returns from HM Revenue and Customs, by other official documents, and by the Special Branch of the British police who had Myatt under surveillance from at least 1997 to 2003. Indeed, Myatt makes mention in his 2012 essay A Matter Of Honour {8} of regularly meeting with a Special Branch officer in 2000 and 2001, and which Special Branch officer knew where Myatt lived during those years.

Lowles also writes that Myatt gave him “a glimpse of the SS dagger in his pocket”. Which is sheer fantasy since as Special Branch and MI5 could confirm Myatt’s weapon of choice – which he almost always carried with him – was a Bersa .22 semi-automatic pistol.

A Presumption Too Far

In the HnH report Lowles writes that “the presumption must be that [Myatt] is still actively involved in the nazi occult organisation he has spent almost 50 years supporting and leading.”

A presumption – a propagandistic presumption – indeed. For no evidence is presented by Lowles who somehow and for some reason forgets to reference Myatt’s extensive post-2012 writings such as his 2013 book Understanding and Rejecting Extremism in which Myatt describes his rejection of all types of extremism.

Which brings us to the tale of two reformed racists. {9} Of David Myatt and Joe Pearce. Pearce was a minor figure in the “extreme eight” in the late 1970s while Myatt was a member of Column 88, of Combat 18, the founder and first leader of the NSM, and “England’s principal proponent of contemporary neo-Nazi ideology and theoretician of revolution” {10}.

Yet Pearce was fêted by the Catholic Church, by the media, and by Establishment figures, gave public lectures, wrote about his experience, and was given a sinecure in academia. However,

“unlike Pearce, Myatt – despite his more interesting and more violent past, his more diverse experiences over some forty years, his greater notoriety, his extensive writings as a neo-nazi ideologue, his far greater involvement with terrorism – was and is shunned by Establishment figures, is ignored by academics, and when mentioned by journalists or in mainstream books it is often in a derogatory and/or prejudiced manner and is invariably accompanied by the propagandistic and unproven allegation of him being involved with the O9A.

Why the disparity, given that both by their own admission are reformed racists who regret their extremist pasts? Why the disparity in their treatment by the Establishment.”

The surmise is that

“the disparity is due to the fact that Pearce is now part of the Establishment – a publicly repentant sinner who has accepted the Christian God and who continues to write, and continues to publicly speak about, what the Establishment approves of – while Myatt is a recluse whose mystical philosophy (the way of pathei-mathos) is essentially pagan. In addition, there is (i) the fact that Myatt has made – both as a neo-nazi and as a radical Muslim – powerful and influential enemies whose mottos are “Never Again” and “Never Forget, Never Forgive”, and (ii) that Myatt’s neo-nazi writings (despite his disavowal of them) still resonant with some people within the neo-nazi community, and (iii) that so many people within the modern Satanist and Occult movements continue to believe (without any evidence) that Myatt is Anton Long and the founder of and the driving force behind the subversive, anti-Establishment, Order of Nine Angles.

Myatt thus seems to have become, to some individuals involved with some sub-cultures (occult and otherwise) not only some sort of iconoclastic anti-Establishment figure but also disliked and reviled by many more individuals around the world who have apparently developed a prejudice against him. Thus Pearce is given the benefit of the doubt, and believed, while Myatt is not.”

The important lesson is that many people are biased about Myatt, swayed perhaps by anti-fascist propaganda, with individuals like Pearce given the benefit of the doubt while Myatt is not given the benefit of the doubt.

Would a scholarly biography of Myatt – replete with references and evidence which has probative value – change such Media presented bias? Perhaps. Would a scholarly book – replete with references and evidence which has probative value – about the O9A contradict now rampant anti-O9a propaganda? Perhaps.

But we won’t hold our breath. For no doubt the anti-fascist propaganda about Myatt and the O9A will continue for decades, with no scholar daring to contradict such now well-established pro-Magian propaganda.

RDM Crew
February 2019 ev
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{1} Refer to https://omega9alpha.wordpress.com/2018/12/03/o9a-transgression-and-subversion/

{2} https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/02/18/children-young-13-joining-satanic-nazi-groups-report-warns/

{3} https://www.stormfront.org/forum/t872799-5/?postcount=44#post13330543

{4} https://wyrdsister.wordpress.com/2019/02/17/a-neo-nazi-death-cult/

{5} The logical fallacy of a dicto secundum quid ad dictum simpliciter is the use of particular individual cases to form a general rule to then use that rule to describe, and thence to blame, or to castigate, or to defame a whole group.

This fallacy often amounts – as in the case of anti-O9A propaganda and in the case of the HnH report – to quoting a few items written by a few people associating with or claiming to be associating with the O9A and then presenting these few items as representative of the O9A, thus neglecting the vast corpus of O9A texts written between 1974 and 2019 and especially neglecting O9A texts which contradict the claims and beliefs mentioned in those few quoted items.

In his 2018 essay In Defence Of The Catholic Church Myatt pedantically uses the complete Latin phrase rather than the shortened popular version secundum quid et simpliciter. This pedantry by Myatt seems to have inspired some connected with the O9A to also use the complete Latin phrase.

{6} The sloppy and propagandistic nature of the items about the O9A and Myatt in the “State Of Hate 2019” report is also evident in the fact that their author does not even bother to get the names or pseudonyms of individuals right. Thus he has
° Christos Beast – instead of Christos Beest
° Darkos Lago – instead of Dark Logos
° A. A. Morian – instead of A.A. Morain
° Michael Mouthwork – instead of Michael Morthwork

{7} Myatt’s version of the meeting is at https://regardingdavidmyatt.wordpress.com/meeting-with-nick-lowles/

{8} https://regardingdavidmyatt.files.wordpress.com/2019/02/a-matter-of-honour.pdf

{9} https://regardingdavidmyatt.wordpress.com/two-reformed-racists/

{10} Michael, George. The New Media and the Rise of Exhortatory Terrorism. Strategic Studies Quarterly (United States Air Force), Volume 7 Issue 1, Spring 2013.

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Related:

Fake News About The O9A

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O9A Transgression And Subversion

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O9A Transgression And Subversion (v.2)
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In this essay the Order of Nine Angles (ONA, O9A) and David Myatt are discussed in relation to two recent articles by the same anonymous author which were published by a popular internet based music magazine. One of which articles – Beyond The Iron Gates: How Nazi-Satanists Infiltrated the UK Underground – was devoted to the O9A, with the other – titled Why We’re Investigating Extreme Politics in Underground Music – dealing with artistic transgression, subversion, and infiltration, in general.

As we reveal, the article about the O9A is ill-informed, while the other article reveals a lack of understanding of artistic transgression and subversion. As we go on to note, the O9A defies classification according to mainstream, conventional, ideas, and appears to have taken “artistic transgression and subversion” to the next level.

That the anonymous author, in respect of the O9A, commits the fallacy of a dicto secundum quid ad dictum simpliciter, and the Fallacy of Incomplete Evidence, was only to be expected.

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